5 629 -4 0 48 621 60 610 -5 19 117 496 -6 133 Crosman has always been VERY consistent and clear with part numbers. If you want to help keep these video's coming, you can do so by making a PayPal Donation on my Web Site http://www.airgunsmn.com , or by watching or clicking. Model CH2009 .177 cal. There was a question about this a few days back. JavaScript is disabled. 70 608 Had the top number been higher, I would have accepted it and had a larger total velocity variation. 62 612 3 17 Check the trigger guard for a small hole near the front. 23 623 They are promoted as two stage adjustable triggers which will really depends on how you define what is a trigger stage? Let me try to explain. The trigger pull is lighter than the 953 but a little heavier than the 753. B.B., always glad to hear about the Challenger and the Challenger/Edge match-up will be one worthy of the holidays. 1 626 -pump=2300 Heres the EVP for the Trigger Assembly of the Generation 2 Marauder. 0000002275 00000 n Hard Air Magazine is the best Internet destination for everything airgun related. 2. Part Three. Current trigger packs for the Gen 2 Marauder both use the newer Gen 2 Casing Side Plate. The Challenger PCP kept the adjustable stock and ambidextrous bolt handle from the wildly popular Challenger 2000, but now includes a patented linear bolt. 21 626 -1 3 29 622 80 592 -1 37 17130 Van Buren Blvd. . 38 617 3 12 It does look cramped under the rear sight and like it would be difficult to work. Can be modded to 12 or even 20fpe- not much shot count there tho ) . Align the screwdriver's head with the small set screw located just in front of the trigger assembly. Copyright Hard Air Magazine. But Ill leave that chore to you guys. 39 617 Airgun Nation is the epicenter for learning, sharing, and discussing everything related to airguns. This is as close to a precision type rifle as a sporter model could get, and quite possibly the best one currently on the market. 5 629 Best grouping is around 1500 PSI. I was concerned about filling them to more than 2000 psi but they seem to work best starting at 2300 and 2500 psi. The Generation 1 Marauder (models BP1763, 2263 and 2563) and the Crosman Challenger 2009 both use the same trigger assembly. 61 609 By continuing to browse the site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. 2023 MidwayUSA Foundation, Inc. 0000020108 00000 n MCAirguns. Those brands are Feinwerkbau, Anschutz, etc. When you back out that screw, you are increasing the sear engagement and adding to the already lengthy 2nd stage. Current trigger packs continue to use the original Gen 1 Safety. 55 615 There are three adjusters in the trigger block: sear adjusting screw 45" (and accompanying nut 46) in the back of the trigger block, trigger set screw 57" in the front of the trigger, and . 2. the difference from the average of 629 fps. The manual should state between 1 to 4 lbs. The only adjustment is out, which takes the length, i.e. That was just a trifle above what I was looking for, so I took it. I hope that this article helps explain how these work and what you may want to look for in your next airgun purchase. Obsolete parts are no longer available. 9 631 2 -2 109 526 Having made both of those very simple . When using the diopter sights ( G397T-011) on the challenger CH2009S, how much will the sights move per click of the knob? Only from Crosman, the world leader in airgun innovation since 1923. Where do they think all those turkeys come from, anyway? Geohost: 104.248.11.200.NA.US.14061.digitalocean-asn (104.248.0.0/20) Air rifles are an economical way to target practice or hunt, and can be very accurate at distances up to 100 yards. But, there are some issues that arise when comparing the Trigger Assembly EVPs for the Gen 1 Marauder, Gen 2 Marauder and Challenger 2009. When I adjusted the trigger-pull weight, the screw fell out of its hole, along with the spring that controls the pull weight. The shorter the stroke, the less air that escapes and vice-versa. Great accuracy and reliability. Careers. The pistol grip. The manual states "Your air pistol is designed with an adjustment to change the trigger pull from 1 to 4 lbs." limit. These screws are located in different positions relative to the trigger slot in the pressure tube of the Gen 1 and Gen 2 Marauders. 28 622 1 7 57 617 6 12 Challenger Competition Air Rifle. We have had mixed reviews on this gun. Because this airgun has an adjustable match grade trigger, it could re WARNING: when dropped or jarred, with or without the safety engaged. I copied too many numbers from my spreadsheet. Whats The Best Velocity For Slugs To Minimize Wind Drift? These allow us to earn a commission when you click on an affiliate link. It gives prominence to the much-leaked new Challenger 2021- that's it in our heading photograph above. 126 454 You will find a small spring and a pin which is the sear for the trigger, discard the spring and take the pun and put washers over it (look at images) it'll make the sear bigger which will fix the deal. If you have your eye on the podium, youre reaching for a Challenger, which is the rifle of choice for many air rifle teams and U.S. Military JROTC programs. This is combined with an increase in HPA fill pressure to 3,000 PSI. And judging by questions we receive in our Archer Airguns parts business, Im far from alone. 56 611 Hard Air Magazine Online Privacy Statement, Velocity Outdoor Product Manager Phillip Guadaulpe. I didnt. Turn the screwdriver clockwise to decrease the trigger pull. 7 629 -3 0 I wanted to get better than 100 shots in a string, or a 100-shot string with a variation lower than 34 f.p.s. 104 542 -4 87 121 479 -2 150 AKA Anschutz 335 Did a quick clean up and function check and it seem to be fine. Anyhow, lets return the the Challenger 2021! 40 617 37 614 -3 15 82 588 -6 41 Airgun Slug BC Variability And Projectile Weight, New Air Venturi Avenge-X Stars At 2023 SHOT Show, Western Airguns Sidewinder Air Rifle Test Review .22 Caliber, H&N Baracuda 15 Pellet Test Review .22 Caliber, Diana Stormrider PCP Air Rifle Test Review .177 Caliber. More good news is that the Lothar Walther barrel is retained, together with confirmation that the Challenger 2021 meets the requirements for national 3P rifle competition. Trigger pull weight for the Crosman Custom Shop regulated Marauder tested by HAM averaged around 2 Lbs 10 Oz out of the box. 87 581 75 598 about 1400 psi For complete, simple confirmation, heres a comparative list of the 19 individual parts for Marauder and Challenger 2009 triggers. 5 & 20 East Bloomeld, NY 14443 800-7-AIRGUN (724-7486) . 107 533 =12.4 psi/shot Consult current 3P regs for allowed costs of sporter rifles. It may not display this or other websites correctly. The Challenger will probably not shoot at all, or it will be very slow until you get that excess air out of the gun. To learn more, please vis. How can I find the part numbers? 53 614 -4 15 Cant help you with the odd cocking lug thing, never took one apart. Knob=0.164, wrench=2 turns in from stop 17 628 41 617 0 12 23 623 -2 6 43 621 7 8 Remember, it does all of this on a fill of just 2,000 psi. Airgun and Airbow Service, Repair and Parts. We recently changed some things on our PCP and Break Barrel Air Rifle warranties. CW:*9)$KTpi\F\D :\N][`#2\v-1B-*>T{$-::CVPP8--I@U[ZZ DWjLbiiHi.B)2@Qe 4.M0/E|'2`\+$|,x .S F1edg`J#4B1|bTdaP` BN}10h 19 626 1 3 The Crosman Challenger PCP three-position pellet rifle brings big upgrades for competitors. 101 550 -3 79 How can I adjust the trigger down to one pound like it states in the manual for the 2300T/2300S? Theres only one way to know. 0000027333 00000 n 20 627 1 2 low end of red Where I primarily shoot has very little to no wind. The Armada? 0000027296 00000 n 115 506 The Blogger support team, in contrast, hasnt done anything to solve the issue, which affects not just this blog but also many others around the world. 15 628 1 1 Time: Wed, 01 Mar 2023 19:19:23 -0500 The coating on the exterior of the rifle is more rust-resistant. is not the average of this string. Day of Clays South Carolina | May 20, 2023, Day of Clays South Carolina Registration, National Youth Shooting Sports Conference, Air Gun Training Camp With Olympians | Sept. 17, 2022, MidwayUSA Foundation Donor Reception | Sept. 17, 2022, Ruger Auction (8 of 26): Ruger M77 Hawkeye All-Weather Rifle, Ruger Auction: (7 of 26): SP101 in .357 Magnum Sales Sample, SKB Shotguns Supports Youth Shooting Sports. I feel that improving the trigger is really the responsibility of the manufacturer not the job of the consumer. Ive tried most of them and they all basically do the same thing. 11 630 deviation. The increase in velocity adds undesirable variability, but maybe at 10 metersespecially with the slow rate of increaseit doesn't matter. 22 625 The Huma reg set at 85 BAR will keep it level at 12 FPE or a little less according to your adjustment of the pellet speed with the striker adjustment knob. The trigger is the part that handles moving the sear out of the way to allow the hammer, or in the case of spring guns, the piston to fly forward and fire the pellet. The Challenger features the same trigger as the Benjamin Marauder. The scale on the butt plate helps maintain consistent adjustments. Remove the trigger from the trigger assembly. A. Bolt B. 1. the drop in fps from the previous shot High-pressure air (2,000 psi) or CO2 (Dual Fuel) Single-shot. You must log in or register to reply here. the trigger blade or maybe a strut, that handles this job. ]xM1hmQNazN#v' K_;-HesHh^f7U'HCX:Wu$+ Also new is the breech with a sidelever cocking system that is described as being swappable. The trigger still had a legal amount of pull. And nobody can answer my question, because these are two interrelated but separate adjustments that affect one another. Since I didnt know what I was doing, I put a full clockwise turn on the hammer stroke screw and a full turn counterclockwise on the hammer spring tension adjuster. Just doing some legwork to prep for when he comes back. 106 536 -4 93 105 shots 2300-1000 54 616 The Armada? 54 616 2 13 120 481 Plenty of shots from high capacity reservoir. 0000010322 00000 n 94 565 -1 64 71 605 The pistol grip is prominent and will require a very different grip from the outgoing model. 96 563 -2 66 0000001650 00000 n But there's something strange about this new catalog. 31 623 1-30=10 psi/shot The 2021 model will undoubtedly be as popular with JROTC and other 10 Meter clubs shooting Three Position Sporter air rifle competition as the previous model has been. Hard Air Magazine is the best Internet destination for everything airgun related. 92 571 I have to dispatch quarry as part of daily life here and not for hobby or for fun. When you pull the trigger you eventually rotate the strut away from the sear which allow the sear to rise and release the piston. High-pressure air (2,000 psi) or CO2 (Dual Fuel) Single-shot. . Probably do a lube tune after a chrony run to see where it's at at the moment. You may adjust either one or both adjustments and get an initial velocity change, but how do you know if that change is what you really want? 39 617 0 12 Anybody shoot their turkey before roasting it for a penetration test in real meat?? New M14 Airgun Version Arriving Very Soon! The extra numbers in the above post are I just got done reading about sprung gauges due to overpressurization so I would say thats one area of concern, who knows what else people have had happen and arent willing to tell others why? 33 620 -1 9 The Challenger 2009 is an upgrade of the Challenger 2000 and is designed for three-position air rifle competition. 110 524 -2 105 Otherwise, PLEASE ALLOW AT LEAST 24 HOURS so the site administrator has a chance to look into the problem. 51 620 59 615 -1 14 This Sporter Class air rifle was redesigned with a new precision class style stock, swappable side lever cocking handle, higher velocities, and much more. JSB RS 7.33 gr pellets There are many ideas floating around the internet about how to improve the trigger for basically pennies. This is all I have done to my challenger and it gets 49 point of aim shots before it drops off the regulator. It is shooting 8.4 AA's at 792 FPS for 11.70 FPE. The two-stage trigger now has a trigger shoe. In the traditional Crosman style system, you have a sear that goes down into the compression chamber and grabs a slot in the piston. The question is: Why would Velocity Outdoor not include all their airgun products in a single catalog? Hmmm. Well, theres not a lot you can do that doesnt completely void the warranty. Record #: 273653 Sign up for the Crosman email list and well get things started with a 10%-off code you can use on your first order. The test was now underway, and the first two shots were included. 46 620 -2 9 I thought you had valve lock, then steady velocity, then decline. The pellet loading mechanism prevents misfires. Please enter the relevant details below, and click the "Submit Trouble Ticket" button to send it to us. With it's well defined first stage trigger stop, crisp second stage and it's full . Edith has been in touch with people from all over, and theyre sharing tips on workarounds. I thought that was still too fast, so I adjusted the gun a second time. 0000000016 00000 n The fundraising goal for this product is $1,800, with a minimum endowment donation of $900. After the first adjustment (one turn in on the hammer stroke, one turn out on the hammer spring tension) the velocity was 540 f.p.s. Adjustable cheekpiece. 63 611 When you reach the 2nd stage is when you actually begin to see movement from the strut, reducing the engagement with the sear until it releases and the gun fires. They are promoted as two stage adjustable triggers which will really depends [], Please Note: You must be 18 years of age or older to order and conform to all laws governing the use and ownership of airguns in your local area. 127 446 -8 183 bottom of green. Though it can be trained to and shooters should have no problem getting used to it the Crosman trigger lacks a definitive clean break. For comparison, here is the cover of the 2019 Velocity Outdoor product catalog. Good balance. 0000019863 00000 n 51 620 1 9 Adjustable ergonomics to fit a variety of youths to adults. 55 615 -1 14 I am not into field target or competition shooting. 116 502 -4 127 With the Crosman triggers, this is NOT the case. 10 626 high end of red 0000023883 00000 n 99 553 separated the high from the low, so I decided to keep on shooting until the velocity dropped below that of the slowest shot528. 3 630 90 578 -1 51 MidwayUSA Foundation 112 515 119 485 88 579 How can I adjust the trigger down to one pound like it states in the manual for the 2300T/2300S? A pre-assembled, drop-in replacement for the Crosman trigger assembly with included Allen key for easy adjustment, even in the fully assembled rifle. It is a lot better than the cheaper PCP because it needs nothing to be a great . The teams air rifle of choice was the Crosman Challenger PCP. 4 633 If you dont take the shot, the strut and sear do NOT automatically return to full engagement, rather they stay at that hair trigger point. It's MIA also. The accuracy is excellent. Part Three. 44 614 -7 15 oil bolt & O-ring Terms of Use | The Huma reg set at 85 BAR will keep it level at 12 FPE or a little less according to your adjustment of the pellet speed with the striker adjustment knob. The trigger is very nice but seems to way out of adjustment, any advise on the adjustment procedure? Back when I did the Benjamin Marauder test, I didnt adjust the trigger because it was already so good from the factory. The original part is obsolete. Head to our fundraising products page with the button below and apply using the links by the Crosman Challenger PCP. I have long been somewhat confused by the differences and similarities between Marauder and Challenger 2009 triggers. Crosman is proud to introduce to the world the latest and greatest in competition airguns, the all-new Crosman Challenger PCP. 72 605 3 630 1 -1 |FWbU&-6Wo_>J($H8IAO`dFdrH'qc~~E"N4OG7P2Fry|wJv;l1KE '^c96W)bfZz'&FR?~&YCZ 63 611 -1 18 0000004565 00000 n 0000017842 00000 n So, I didnt actually lower the velocity of the gun by 28 f.p.s., as I said earlier. 50 619 -3 10 624 yEHt 121 479 Shot FPS But that was what I set out to beat. If you read any customer reviews of Crosman spring and nitro piston guns like the Nitro Venom, youll find that they all may have good things to say about the gun, but very few if any sing the praises of the their triggers. How is that t-shaped bolt working for you? 17 628 1 1 You can find out more about how we use them in the privacy policy. The Discovery has a sweet spot from 2500 to about 1600 psi. 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